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« on: June 14, 2007, 05:37:40 PM »

well my ex has been quite a pill the past week, though the past couple of days i haven't seen him and the days before that he was a bit better, but oh dear how stressful.

I've got almost constant shoulder pain and sinus headache.

In Louise Hay's book she said that sinus pain is indicative of irritation with someone; shoulder pain is feeling unloved or unable to be loved.

I felt kind of sad reading the latter, because I have been both very loved and very unloved simultaneously as an adult.

What do you think about these explanations of illness? Is cancer even a sign of unresolved emotion? Is this a balanced view or just another contributory factor in a larger model?
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2007, 06:13:18 PM »

That is what the thread Deadly Emotions is all about-how you emotions can effect your health - it is worth a read.
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2007, 07:19:04 PM »

I know that I have stomach problems because I gave away my "core", and guts to my mother.  I gave up my strength and intestinal fortitude also. I got to a point where I could barely eat,
   Now, as I heal, I am being able to eat more.
  Whenever I am afraid, I get an immediate stomach ache.
  I think that we are integrated beings. Out mind and body are one.unit.
  Caroline Myss is a medical intuitive. She can see where  there is a physical problem and the emotional reasons which caused it(in many cases).
   Let me know if you know about her                           Love Ami
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2007, 07:42:28 PM »

Medical Intuitive-my doc used that term.  She is a medical intuitivne AND an emotional intuitive-I love her-she points me in the right direction every time.
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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2007, 06:46:59 AM »

Write,

Louise Hay is a really clever woman. I love her books. It seems so cranky at first, with her theories, but after a while you just *have* to believe her approach.

I get sinus pain, and now I know what causes it, I always analyse what's been happening to see *who* has caused me to have it come back, and there's always a reason.

Four years ago, I suddenly got appalling eczema, all over the top half of my body. In my hair, in my mouth, everywhere. The skin fell off my face and hands within three days, and I swelled up so much, my husband told (afterwards, fortunately!), that I'd looked like a frog! There was a risk I would have anaphylactic shock (like with peanut allergy), and collapse.

My usual doctor sent me to a dermatologist who just said 'you've become allergic to something - you have to try to identify what it is and avoid it.'

Thanks for that, Mr Specialist. That cost me 120 for half an hour's 'advice'. And he had eczema himself, so not a good advert.

My homeopath, though, took one look at me, and said ' Have you had any sudden emotional shock lately, anything to do with the past?' What a different approach!

I HAD had a shock - my Nsister had sent me ('anonymously', but I knew it was her from the handwriting on the envelope) a newspaper cutting from a letters page, where a woman was 'pleading' with other women who don't make a fuss of their mothers on Mother's Day to make the effort, beacuse one day, their mothers would be dead, like hers was, and then they'd be sorry. My Nsister often acts as 'go-between' for my Nmum.

This had made me really angry to receive, especially as it was 'anonymous', so I couldn't easily respond directly.

Apparently, eczema is a classic example of the body responding to extreme irritation and frustration in physical ways. I was given homeopathic chocolate, would you believe, which cleared it up within days.

I have read before that cancer is a sign of feeling unloved, so that's worrying that, in today's society, so many people get cancer now.

Janet
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2007, 09:30:26 AM »

In Louise Hay's book she said that sinus pain is indicative of irritation with someone; shoulder pain is feeling unloved or unable to be loved.

You women are a Fountain of Knowledge! I have been putting those hot patches on my shoulders for months.Some days would be better than others. I definitely have been feeling unloved, and I have had this feeling for a long long time.

Thanks for the knowledge!

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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2007, 09:32:48 AM »

In Louise Hay's book she said that sinus pain is indicative of irritation with someone

Interesting, Write.

Yesterday, I came home from my meeting with NH and two lawyers and I had the worst sinus pain.  I thought to myself, what's THIS about all of a sudden? 

Very interesting.

CB
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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2007, 01:19:26 PM »

Ah, well, here's a contrarian view...

I sure believe there's a powerful mind-body connection, but I find it difficult to swallow (err...what's that mean?) that each symptom or complaint is linked to a specific kind of emotion.

I went to a workshop on Louise Hay's principles at one time years ago. Taken to the extreme, the participants made clear that this particular kind of philosophy even posits that as little souls floating in the universe, we select our parents in order to "work out issues from our past lives". I asked, what about abused babies...are you telling me they CHOSE those parents (like the philosophy was telling people they "chose" their physical illnesses "to learn lessons"...)? And they said, oh that's because the baby had some karma it had to work out...smiling beatifically.

I wanted to smack 'em. Anyway, I think Hay is hooey. Though mind-body connections make sense, I do not think they're that prescriptive or predictable.

And I sure as heck don't think anybody selects their parents or chooses cancer to "learn something."

Grumpily (more about why I'm grumpy on another thread), these are just my idle responses...no disrespect to anyone who likes Hay or has benefitted from thinking about her work--I'm glad it's helpful to people anyway!

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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2007, 04:42:33 PM »

I loved the Louise Hay book graphics and wonderful positive affirmations, however I do feel that illness is many things including an emotional upsetting of the body systems.

I mentioned it to a doctor friend today and as she said, she just treated a newborn who has to have a tumour removed, that's not likely to be an emotional response to stress etc....

Oh, you were just talking about this Hops, I've always had a problem with karma theories, mainly because I think we attach good or bad labels to things which simply are mostly. Saying people deserve things or have earned them in some way says more about the maliicousness or lack of compassion of others sometimes, I have heard Christians saying someone is going to hell with the same zeal and lack of thought.

I do think though often for us to reach resolution of the often un-resolvable we have to have an acceptance and create some explanation for ourselves and make sense of it. SO we see connections and coincidences and repeat events in things which are a pattern to us but may not be anything more than that.

That's what G_d is to me, all things in balance, the 'love' of the universe.

I believe we all experience it differently too.

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My shoulder pain diminuished a lot after my therapy session yesterday, and several demonstrations of love from people in my life. My sinus pain is less too, but that has beena  problem for years and is worse in Houston with needing a/c, the pollution, mould, humidity- which sometimes helps, sometimes makes it worse!

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My ex gets chronic eczema, funnily enough it is usually when to me and others he is behaving at his best the symptoms flare up and he has a terrible time...

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I bumped into a friend this morning, she has been seeign one of these 'medic intuitive' people for ages, I have to say she would benefit better by going for regular psychotherapy, and she has yet to address the basic residual stuff from childhood.

I didn't like the way the medic was also her friend, I didn't understand how someone would confuse the boundaries like that.

My therapist is fond of me but she keeps the boundaries. Funny how they soften over the years though, as you get to know each other and know where they need rigid enforcement or not!

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I've tried to avoid ex, we are all going to dinner tomorrow night that will be the first time I've seen him since Tuesday; I know that doesn't sound long, but it's almost been hard to avoid him, like I want to get the hostility over and done with. And now I am realising- it's never over and doen with like with someone else. In fact, he isn't even unpleasant half the time, if he consistently was I suppose I wouldn't have kept going back....
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2007, 05:29:24 PM »

sinus problems can be too many dairy products or any dairy products. If you give them up for 4 days, the problem will go away if it is this                               Love   Ami
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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2007, 05:38:46 PM »

wow. I have sinus problems, not pain, skin rashes, skin cancer, get many pains in my shoulders and arms and vulvodynia.
I blame it all on stress that I don't know I have.

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« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2007, 06:43:16 PM »

Something really neat is happening to me. As I face deep pain my eyes get better.
Yesterday, I faced ,in my heart, the depth of how my parents and H betrayed me. Today, I am seeing much better.
   I really can't get over how real the mind -body connection is. It is really surprising to me.
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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2007, 06:47:58 PM »

my shoulder pain is back, my son was just jumping all over me then suddenly got aggressive, you know how boys do. I didn't really feel threatened by him as such but it triggered some very stressful memories.

I am only just coming out of denial about my husband's violence and the effects it has had on me, I'm not sure why that was part of his behaviour I always minimised.

Glad you are feelign better Ami.

I need to drop dairy, but since I am not singing anything big the next few weeks i guess I have been over-indulging...it does make sinus worse!
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« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2007, 11:38:46 PM »

Hmmm. Learning, learning here...

Izz, don't you think arm and shoulder pain could come from overuse of arms and shoulders you're forced to do bec. of the chair?

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« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2007, 02:26:03 AM »

I think there is a powerful mind body connection. I have eczema and it gets really bad when I am stressed. Recently I went to see Dr. Hoffer, world renowed orthomolecular scientist. He suggested quitting dairy and within a few days eczema was so much better.
He has a site and recommends vitamins for stress and disease.
I am taking his vitamins for depression and they are helping. Especially in the energy department.

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