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 41 
 on: June 16, 2015, 06:14:11 PM 
Started by Dr. Richard Grossman - Last post by teartracks


lighter, thank you for asking about my health.  The problem is that I've become chronically old.  It's my turn!

Reading about your move, the lovely environment and your excitment is wonderful.  I'm glad life is good for you and the girls!

Does straw gardening appeal to you?

tt

 42 
 on: June 16, 2015, 06:11:01 PM 
Started by Dr. Richard Grossman - Last post by teartracks

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As I said, my big concern about your post was that, knowing you for so many years, it didn’t seem like your “voice.”   The particular words from “butt in” on to the end of that sentence were not ones that I could imagine you writing.  Your writing and word choice have always been elegant, your sentences beautifully phrased—almost like pieces of art!  Of course I know you’re intelligent!  That's why I worried...

When this board started, we didn't have NSA and it's revolting siblings breathing down our neck.  I've changed.  I don't know what to say except thank you for the compliment.  I consider myself an ultra private person.  My reactions may have been a bit brittle, especially  as expressed on the board which I consider to be a safer place.   My eyes are wider and my whole being more diligent - intelligent or not, such reactions have probably become a part of who I am in 2015.  It's important to me for you to know that it wasn't an attack on you, I support Freedom #2 to the max.  I hope we all live all five of of our Constitutional freedoms to the max now and always!
 
It's my understanding that most people don't know what the 5 freedoms of the Constitution are.  That's sad and may account for what I see as pervasive societal lethargy, the proverbial "deer caught in the headlight" look.

As I said to lighter, I've become chronically old.  It's my turn!

I ain't skeert, btw!

Kindest regards,
tt

 43 
 on: June 16, 2015, 12:19:03 PM 
Started by Dr. Richard Grossman - Last post by Dr. Richard Grossman

"I haven't figured out why my post seemed so unlike me. If memory serves me right, it is pretty common for members to apologize for butting in, changing the subject on threads etc.  Maybe I never did any of that?  I don't know.  I would be interested to learn why what and how I said it seemed so out of place for me.  You wouldn't be thinking that I've turned itelligent (emotional and otherwise), empathetic, caring, open, authentic, free from dogma, etc., etc.,.  Aw, go on surprise me!  LOL"

Hi tt,

As I said, my big concern about your post was that, knowing you for so many years, it didn’t seem like your “voice.”   The particular words from “butt in” on to the end of that sentence were not ones that I could imagine you writing.  Your writing and word choice have always been elegant, your sentences beautifully phrased—almost like pieces of art!  Of course I know you’re intelligent!  That's why I worried...

"There is no question in my mind that there are different “kinds” of people.  I believe that's  normal for humanity.   I believe they should have the freedom to seek out one another.  However, it seems clear to me that the current polilitical flotsom largely made up of  power types of many varities, who would and in many cases are delighting in persecuting those who wish to practice the five freedoms guaranteed in the Constitution.  In the case of this conversation it's about freedom #2.  It appears that you're  practicing it unabashed and with gusto!   Bravo!  It was pointed out to me that what we've discussed would qualify as a thought crime as outlined in 1984 by Orwell and which was common in the 20th century under various dictators.  I'm sure there were others in other centuries where it was the same.  It is true, there is nothing new under the sun."

Thanks, tt!  I've always practiced freedom of speech "unabashed and with gusto."  This web site is but one example.  My views have gotten me into a lot of trouble my whole life, but I wouldn't/couldn't have lived life any other way--and my beliefs/speech/thoughts/writing have led to extraordinary attachments to many dear people of many different "kinds!"  For me, as I've said, these attachments are most important of all.

But please let us know, as lighter writes above:  How are you feeling?

Richard

 44 
 on: June 16, 2015, 09:21:15 AM 
Started by Twoapenny - Last post by lighter
Hi Hops:

I'm glad you posted about your new house a bit.  I didn't get to hear much when you made that move.  Lots of space, and a huge yard sounds lovely. 

What did you do with renovations? 

I'm thinking about making all my ceilings smooth, but good grief.... so EXPENSIVE!  Not sure about that, and if it doesn't happen now it won't happen at all.  Will see.

For sure I'll take up all the carpet, and redo kitchen in phase I.

The septic needs a bit of work, so I'll add another drain line making it possible to permit a 4th bedroom, and third bath, which is planned but no hurry.

I already purchased the kitchen, and many things I'll need.... such a deal at Habitat For Humanity Store semi annual sale.   Everything is coming together like it was meant to be. 

Honestly, I can't wait to get into the yard, pull weeds, and plant this fall: )

Lighter

 

 45 
 on: June 16, 2015, 08:54:52 AM 
Started by Garbanzo - Last post by lighter
I'm sorry you're feeling so out of sorts, Garbonzo.

Did stepping back help?

Lighter

 46 
 on: June 16, 2015, 08:53:22 AM 
Started by Dr. Richard Grossman - Last post by lighter
Hi teartracks:

Good to see you back.  Are you feeling better now?

Lighter

 47 
 on: June 16, 2015, 06:12:10 AM 
Started by BonesMS - Last post by BonesMS
checking in......

 48 
 on: June 15, 2015, 11:51:36 PM 
Started by Dr. Richard Grossman - Last post by teartracks





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I had never thought about having a Forrest Gump or Chauncy Gardner type for a therapist.  Maybe ignorance can not only be bliss, but goodness/unselfishness, too!  (Well, actually, I would need the intelligence [emotional and otherwise] dimension in a therapist as well, so unfortunately neither Forrest nor Chauncy would work.  I’ll keep looking...)

One thing I've determined in this brief exchange between us is that text therapy wouldn't work for me.  It lends itself to misunderstanding IMO.  Each of us has expressed our lack of understanding of what the other said.

None of what I've written on this thread revolves around choosing a therapist.   However, I wouldn't choose Forrest or Chauncy as therapists either.  I admire Forrest and have said in the past that I want to be Forrest Gump.  In the case of Forrest my admiration is for his goodness and gentleness.  Where Chauncy is concerned, I loved the movie because it showed the shallowness of the uppercrust society that adopted him and how sick and pathetic we humans are capable of being even with our pockets full of money. 

I haven't figured out why my post seemed so unlike me. If memory serves me right, it is pretty common for members to apologize for butting in, changing the subject on threads etc.  Maybe I never did any of that?  I don't know.  I would be interested to learn why what and how I said it seemed so out of place for me.  You wouldn't be thinking that I've turned itelligent (emotional and otherwise), empathetic, caring, open, authentic, free from dogma, etc., etc.,.  Aw, go on surprise me!  LOL

There is no question in my mind that there are different “kinds” of people.  I believe that's  normal for humanity.   I believe they should have the freedom to seek out one another.  However, it seems clear to me that the current polilitical flotsom largely made up of  power types of many varities, who would and in many cases are delighting in persecuting those who wish to practice the five freedoms guaranteed in the Constitution.  In the case of this conversation it's about freedom #2.  It appears that you're  practicing it unabashed and with gusto!   Bravo!  It was pointed out to me that what we've discussed would qualify as a thought crime as outlined in 1984 by Orwell and which was common in the 20th century under various dictators.  I'm sure there were others in other centuries where it was the same.  It is true, there is nothing new under the sun.

tt




 49 
 on: June 15, 2015, 06:01:14 AM 
Started by BonesMS - Last post by BonesMS
checking in..............................................................

 50 
 on: June 15, 2015, 12:08:35 AM 
Started by Garbanzo - Last post by Garbanzo
Decided to take a step back from the situation. I went from feeling excited and happy to feeling depressed & angry & sad in about five minutes.

What if things like these really are the cause of depression and mental health issues. i don't even know what I am saying I'm tired and feel like i cant formulate my thoughts.

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